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Provost recommends restructuring CAS, CCJ

By Chelsea Reil

News Staff

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Published: Thursday, September 10, 2009

Updated: Thursday, September 10, 2009

After appointing an Ad Hoc Committee last December to research potentially restructuring the College of Arts and Sciences (CAS) and the College of Criminal Justice (CCJ), Provost Stephen Director announced yesterday he plans to reorganize the pair into a trio.
Director posted a 14-page document on the Provost’s website in which he recommended restructuring the College of Arts and Sciences (CAS) and the College of Criminal Justice (CCJ) into three colleges: a College of Science; a College of Arts, Media and Design; and a College of Social Science and Humanities, under which CCJ would operate as the School of Criminal Justice– a move that some CCJ students and faculty have vocally opposed from the start, arguing it would lessen the program’s esteem.
Former CCJ Dean Jack Greene, who could not be reached for comment yesterday, said in an interview Tuesday that such a change shows Northeastern’s “symbolic disinvestment” in the criminal justice program, which was founded in 1968.
“It’s not a trivial matter to say that a place that has had a forty-year investment in something would decide to disinvest in it,” Greene said. “I’m sure the university will say that [restructuring the colleges] is not a disinvestment. Well, it’s certainly a symbolic disinvestment.”
In response to Greene’s comments, Director told The News yesterday that he believed the opposite:  restructuring shows the university is investing in the criminal justice program’s advancement, he said. He said a turning point in the discussions came during a June 15th retreat, when representatives from throughout the university convened to discuss the possibility of merging CAS and CJ into one college, keeping them as two, or reorganizing them into three.
The group was broken into sub-committees to discuss the pros and cons of each structure, and the three-college committee had the most persuasive advantages, he said.
Future diplomas will likely include the degrees graduates earned, such as a criminal justice degree, instead of just the colleges they graduated from, such as the College of Social Science and Humanities, he said.
“We’re not eliminating any degree programs. We’re not closing the department down. We’re reorganizing things,” he said, later adding, “What’s important is the major:  You graduated from Northeastern University with a degree in criminal justice.”
Director said the next step in the process is giving the Northeastern community a chance to comment on the recommendation and to present it to faculty senate this semester. In the interview and the report, he said he anticipates the changes to take effect by July 1, 2010.
The recommendation does not yet include locations for the Communication Studies Department, School of Education and General Studies Program within the three-college structure. Director said faculty in those programs are discussing where they believe they fit into the structure and task forces will be assigned to finish the process.
“This is a very big deal for this university,” Director said. “It positions us very differently than some other universities. ... There is certainly a strong feeling amongst a large number of diverse groups that this was a reasonable thing to move forward with.”
Still, the recommendation was met with disappointment by some members of CCJ yesterday. Sophomore criminal justice major Eric Jacobson told The News “there’s a lot of hostility and unpleasantness [among CCJ students] toward the administration right now,” and Darren Costa, president of the Criminal Justice Student Advisory Council, said he feels the “student body has been lied to.”
“We were told that before any decision was made, there would be more discussions and more forums, but they’ve already set a date for when these changes will go into affect,” he said. “We were told that there would be more students on the future committees, we were told that more students would be able to participate. We didn’t expect a final decision so early without any discussion.
But other CCJ members, like professor James Alan Fox, said the report was “reasonable” and “positive,” and said a restructure may be necessary to keep pace with the realities of changes the college has undergone in recent years. Fox said that while criminal justice previously had a large undergraduate program, it now has a large doctorate program and “a smaller undergrad with higher quality students.”
“I think this change makes a lot of sense with the changes in our program,” he said, adding that the report “clearly indicated an important role of criminal justice, that it will remain a vitally important part, not just of college of social sciences and humanities but of the university in general. I’m looking forward to the change.”
Amanda Sabia, Vice President of Academic Affairs in Student Government Association, said she feels that “for the most part, the division of colleges is a good move” but understands that students have concerns that need to be heard.
“I know that [the Provost’s office is] going to meet with students to keep them a part of what goes forward,” said Sabia. “It is not a closed-door operation. It is not set in stone, it is a recommendation.”
Costa said he will continue to fight for CCJ despite the recommendation.
“Even thought this recommendation has come in, CJ students aren’t going to back down,” Costa said. “We’ve been robbed of our identity; we are still going to be fighting for students and make their voices heard, even if the provost’s office isn’t listening.”

–News Staff Maggie Cassidy contributed to this report.

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25 comments

Real Major idiot
Sat Sep 12 2009 23:31
most CJ majors here don't become cops or prison guards. most end up working for the federal govt in the fbi, dea, atf, cia, homeland security or as lawyers or in research. others go into careers such as victims rights and sex offender tracking, and rape counselors. but you're right, you have to dumb and useless to do all that. you must be a rich little spoiled brat who's only concern other than how much you're going to drop on your parents credit card is how much more ignorant can i be?
lmao
Sat Sep 12 2009 19:22
You know, "a student with a real major", how about you brush up on learning to spell first before slamming another's choice of major? That would REALLY help your pathetic excuse for an argument. Just a thought...or maybe you should transfer to a REAL major, you know, one where they consider spelling to be kind of important.

Cheers, LMAO

A student with a real major...
Sat Sep 12 2009 00:21
Is criminal Justice a real Major? If I wanted to be a cop or prison guard, I don't see what I'd need to go to college for...
Northeastern is on the way up, and we don't need stupid majors dragging us down. Put the money and focus on the liberal arts and hard sciences, the places where top research universities are supposed be exceling.
NEU faculty member
Fri Sep 11 2009 19:01
The restructuring has absolutely not one single benefit for CCJ -- CCJ stands to lose a lot and will gain absolutely nothing. Professor Fox: what have you been smoking? Where is your loyalty? Who is paying you? Why do you think you are the only CCJ faculty member who speaks out in favor of this disastrous idea?
lmao
Fri Sep 11 2009 14:44
Not to rag on you any more, Paul, but I feel the need to elaborate on my original point yesterday...bear with me here.

I've already donated money back to NU. Yeah, it wasn't much, but it was something. However, donating money NOW, everything considered, seems to me to be a tacit approval of what the administration has done/will do, and rest assured sir, I DO NOT approve in any imaginable way, shape or form. For the administration to have handled this whole situation in such a matter is, dare I say, an insult to the Alumni and current students of the CCJ, not to mention those in the CAS (didn't want to leave you guys out). A kid with half a brain cell to his name could have concocted a better plan to play this whole charade out, to be honest, and quite frankly if students start transferring out like rats escaping a sinking ship and alumni pull support, the administration have only to look at their fabulous reflections in the mirror to figure out who to blame. I was considering coming back as a grad student, but...nah. Get your money elsewhere, NU, for you will not be seeing it from me.

George Patsourakos LA60
Fri Sep 11 2009 12:53
The Northeastern Board of Trustees must reject the plan to reorganize the College of Arts and Sciences and the College of Criminal Justice into three colleges.

If implemented, this plan -- proposed by Provost Stephen Director -- would degrade the current status of the College of Arts and Sciences and the College of Criminal Justice.

Doesn't the Northeastern President or Board of Trustees have anything productive that Provost Director can do? It appears that they do not. This being the case, the Board of Trustees must terminate him.

cj alum
Thu Sep 10 2009 20:47
Funny how they found one cj faculty member to come out and support this restructure. What's in it for you Professor Fox or are we looking at Dean Fox?
Darren Costa.
Thu Sep 10 2009 19:44
In related (and good) news, I found out today that CJ students who will be under the new College of Social Sciences & Humanities will most likely have "Criminal Justice" listed as their major on their diploma, addressing the concern that CJ students would only have the new college's name & BS on the diploma. So CJ students do not worry, it is highly probable that you will still have "Criminal Justice" somewhere on your diploma.
In addition, to the best of my knowledge (please correct me if i am wrong) currently CAS diplomas do not list a students' major, but academic leadership is hopeful that spring graduates will in fact have their majors on their diplomas.
Student
Thu Sep 10 2009 16:19
It disgusts me how the provost and president seem to have no regard for the opinions of students, faculty, and alumni. I have heard a huge backlash against incorporating CJ into another school, and few in favor, yet they will go forward with their original plan all along.

As a CAS student with a double major in the sciences and humanities, I'm worried about the difficulty of that situation now. Will it be easy to get joint degrees from different colleges? Will students be applying to the colleges directly instead of the university? This could be so much more complicated than it needs to be.

NU Alum
Thu Sep 10 2009 15:58
As a twenty-year alumni admissions recruiter, (and much longer NU Alum), I can attest to the prestige of CJ to parents and prospective students alike. When I speak to them at college fairs, the very mention of NU's CJ curriculum gives us a big advantage over other universities who do not have such a program. While I see the merit of separating Arts and Science into distinct colleges, I believe that renaming CJ into "Social Science and Humanities" clearly reduces the importance of a first class criminal justice program.
NU Alum
Thu Sep 10 2009 15:57
As a twenty-year alumni admissions recruiter, (and much longer NU Alum), I can attest to the prestige of CJ to parents and prospective students alike. When I speak to them at college fairs, the very mention of NU's CJ curriculum gives us a big advantage over other universities who do not have such a program. While I see the merit of separating Arts and Science into distinct colleges, I believe that renaming CJ into "Social Science and Humanities" clearly reduces the importance of a first class criminal justice program.
lmao
Thu Sep 10 2009 14:28
Oh Paul, sorry man! I wasn't aware that I was directly causing CCJ to fail- I thought that was the Administrations job. Silly me.
Paul
Thu Sep 10 2009 14:16
Oh please the CCJ alums are notorious for not giving back. If you really wanted to give a point you would give it to the the new school and make it stronger than ever. Thats what someone who cared about Criminal Justice would do. Instead of hoping that it dies a slow death.
lmao
Thu Sep 10 2009 14:02
Well guys (and girls), it's not like we all didn't know it was a complete charade in the first place. Pretty much just proves my original theory right...I was planning on sending some kids that I know in High School NU's way, as well as potentially making a donation or two, nothing big but still...that's sure as Hell's not happening now, for damn sure...I'll be guiding the kids over to Comm. Ave. instead, and if I was a betting woman, I'd say I'm not the only Alumni that's going to do the exact same thing...congrats NU administration, you've just bitten the hand that feeds...
Darren Costa
Thu Sep 10 2009 13:56
Ouch Enzo Yaksic (NJ for President). Very mature of you.
If you are going to attack people please step up and least post your name instead of hiding behind another. Myself along w/ my fellow CJ undergrads have been trying to stop this and have been tirelessly making efforts to have our voices heard. CJSAC has and will continue to represent CJ students in the months to come, ensuring that their voices will be heard.
And yes you are correct, there soooooo many benefits to being the president of a small academic student organization. For one I have a guest room in Aoun's Beacon Hill mansion, I get my own personal parking spot, half of the proceeds from Chicken Lou's go to me, and I also get to work out in Marino after it closes.
M. Singer
Thu Sep 10 2009 12:36
Typical Northeastern! It never changes, does it?
Engineering Student
Thu Sep 10 2009 11:50
The problems are not just with CJ. They are getting rid of Engineering Tech for some unknown reason. I may not be an Eng Tech student but I have friends who are. It is a sad thing because most of the people in it are smarter and harder worker than the stoners/drunks in Ploy Sci and business and pretty much any other non engineering major. They also make more than the average NEU grad out of school.
parent
Thu Sep 10 2009 11:29
As is typical at universities, such decisions occur in a vacuum, in spite of the 'public commentary' blather. CJ is an asset to the University, and if they had their heads in a different place, perhaps they could showcase this degree rather than meld it together in another College. So my recommendation is to vote with your pocketbook, the best way to voice your sentiments. I am disappointed, but NOT surprised I just say, in NEU's shift. Just another 'strip mall' university. Yippee!
CBA Alum
Thu Sep 10 2009 10:54
Funny, the university took the same approach when it switched from the quarter system over to semesters (not that I think it was a bad move): pretend to take feedback and hold open discussions, but already have a game plan that is going forward no matter what. NU needs to work on its public relations... with its own students & faculty!
notCJ
Thu Sep 10 2009 10:46
Despite how it negatively affects CJ, I'm glad they're spliting A&S until 3. it seems like it'll distinguish the programs within the college more now, which is what CCJ did for CJ (in my opinion, though i'm not CJ). I guess while its a step forward for me, I see how it is a step backwards for others






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