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Possible CJ change disliked by many

By By Rob Tokanel

News Staff

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Published: Monday, April 13, 2009

Updated: Monday, April 13, 2009

 Citing a lack of transparency in the process and a fear that the criminal justice program will be diminished, students, alumni and faculty of the College of Criminal Justice are joining in opposition to the possible restructuring of the college.
A 13-member committee was charged with considering options for organizational change to the college in January. One of the options would include dissolving the college and allowing the program to be absorbed by the College of Arts and Sciences.
Despite several forums that were supposed to open the discussion to the public, many students said they haven’t been given the answers they are looking for.
Darren Costa, president-elect of the recently formed Criminal Justice Student Advisory Council, said he has tried repeatedly to obtain basic information from the committee and has been denied. Costa said Vice Provost  for Academic affairs Mary Loeffelholz, the only member of the committee to attend the forums, has not been forthcoming when questioned and has been inaccessible outside of meetings.
“We’ve requested information, and we get shot down again, and again, and again,” he said. “We get the same generic answers from the vice provost, and it’s extremely frustrating and concerning when you have so many students threatening to transfer and the committee is not listening.”
On Feb. 10, Provost Stephen Director said at a Council for University Programs “Eye to Eye” meeting that students would have the opportunity to interact with the committee weighing the pros and cons of the restructure.
At the forum held Feb. 24, Loeffelholz avoided answering questions from attendees:  “We’re here to hear more from you than you are from me.”
Costa said he has a petition with more than five pages of signatures from students, alumni and faculty who fear that the restructuring will damage the national identity of the program and marginalize its quality. He has also e-mailed parents, alumni and incoming students to inform them of the possible changes, which he said the administration has failed to do adequately.
In a Feb. 19 meeting with The News, President Joseph Aoun said students should not worry about prospective organizational changes to the College of Criminal Justice because he doesn’t “do anything that creates a disadvantage.”
“I’m going to be against anything that diminishes our quality or momentum,” he said. “The only reason [for the restructuring] is to provide more opportunities, including joint appointments, including joint access to programs and faculties; otherwise why would we do it?”
Professor, former Dean and College of Criminal Justice alumnus Jack Greene said in a letter to the editor in the April 9 issue of The News that the restructuring is already underway and will decrease the size of the criminal justice program.
Greene said in the past two years, there have been 360 and 375 students admitted to CJ, respectively. For next year, only 144 students were accepted, which Greene said will likely cut the size of the incoming class by about 60 percent as compared to the two previous years.
“In my view this is a calculated and engineered strategy that will decimate criminal justice at Northeastern, not reorganize it into another structure,” he said.
Kutztown University of Pennsylvania criminal justice professor Gary Cordner, who graduated from the Northeastern College of Criminal Justice in 1974, said his experience as a dean of the College of Justice and Safety at Eastern Kentucky University for six years gave him a sense that operating as an individual college creates a reputation that is valuable. Cordner said he hopes the reorganization does not occur because it would hurt the university’s reputation.
Senior criminal justice major Karin Pipczynski said she thinks the restructuring is a foregone conclusion and the forums have been a front to placate angry students, faculty and alumni.
“Recruiters from the CIA were here two weeks ago, and I mentioned to both of them the possibility of restructuring,” she said. “They looked at each other and said, ‘we came to Northeastern to recruit for the CIA because of the College of Criminal Justice, that’s what led us here and not anywhere else.’”
Despite frustrations, Costa said he will continue to pursue information from the administration and voice his opposition to the changes.
“The students of the College of Criminal Justice refuse to roll over and die,” he said. “We’re not going to lay down and just let this roll over us. We’re going to fight this tooth and nail to the very end.”

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15 comments

lmao is wondering wtf the deal is...
Wed Apr 15 2009 21:58
seriously, this is lame...if my posts don't come up by tomorrow I guess I'll just have to repost. Le sigh.
lmao
Wed Apr 15 2009 21:31
...if my stuff posts on here repeatedly, my apologies...doesn't want to show up underneath the comments tonight...
lmao
Wed Apr 15 2009 21:25
BREAKING NEWS..."intellect1" just got told off on teh intarwebs... Seriously, what is it with you and others like you caring about what "type" of students CJ brings in; If it doesn't affect you, your job prospects or your level of schooling, then WTF are you bitching about? How am I a joke because I worked my ass off to get here (same as you, no doubt) and paid my own damn way? I am far from a moron, nor am I an athlete (funny how certain handles on here keep bringing up those same two points in their arguments, LMAO...) I got here because I studied hard, took some initiative and ended up posing as a 13 year old girl online, managing to get two scumbags arrested for online solicitation of a minor before I got my Associates with a pretty decent GPA in CJ at a *GASP* Community College! So, if you want to keep on making more generalizations, you go right ahead...just realize how much of a joke you're making yourself look in return. That is all. Back to my Chai...
Your name
Wed Apr 15 2009 14:40
intellect, you're obviously a spoiled brat who's only reason for coming to NU is to make millions of dollars, hoarding it to yourself hoping that this somehow raises your tremendously low self-esteem. cj majors dont come to northeastern to make money. we are all here because you want to give back to our communities and our country. most of us will end up as lawyers, state troopers, and federal law enforcement officers. that means fbi, dea, ice, atf, us marshals, homeland security, and department of defense to name just a few. the cj program here offers elite co-op positions with the state and federal government. nucj also is home to a largely successful and well-known human trafficking research project. so before you go insulting anyone and their program of study, why don't you do a little research and think before you open your mouth about things you don't know about. better yet go crying back to your rich mommy and daddy. you're pathetic
intellect is a fool
Wed Apr 15 2009 11:51
"intellect" - I hope you're kidding, your insults are ridiculous. It's people like YOU who we need to weed out. Let me guess, you're here on your parents money, have probably had everything handed to you your entire life, and have never been to a real job before co-op. Grow up.
intellect1
Wed Apr 15 2009 10:42
The students admitted to the criminal justice program are a joke in comparison to the rest of our university. Northeastern is becoming a fine academic institution...we need to stop catering to athletes and morons and cut programs like CJ that lower our academic profile. 5 years to study CJ? Go to community college and enjoy your life as campus rent-a-cops. Congratulations, Northeastern, on realizing where the fat needs to be trimmed.
the one, the only, lmao
Mon Apr 13 2009 20:23
NU Realist, I cannot speak for others, but I have personally never said (nor believed) that we were above any other majors here. We all pay (or someone does) the same approximate tuition, etc.etc. I personally believe however, that we, as Criminal Justice students, should be held and should hold ourselves to a higher ethical standard, as we will most likely be held to this when we join the workforce in whatever our field happens to be. It is what was drilled into me at my previous school, and it is something I still remember and still personally practice. That said, I'm curious though how (or why) you figure the Nursing program should be cut/downgraded...that was out of the blue...
loeffelholz is a fool
Mon Apr 13 2009 20:01
Thank you thank you thank you huntington news to continue to get our voices heard.Since forums to discuss this in a normal manner seem to not exist and we have only been given a generic e-mail to send our thoughts, you're all we got pushin' for us.... THANK YOU

I'M NOT BACKING DOWN!! This administration has become a dictatorship and it's ridiculous!
-cj student

Pissed CJ Student
Mon Apr 13 2009 19:32
These changes are part of larger changes already looming. Who wants to be co-op, I mean "experential education," is gone within 5 years? They are already phasing it out in terms of international study and joint BS/MS programs. These clowns are destroying the University.
NU Faculty Member
Mon Apr 13 2009 19:30
I beg the Huntington News to keep up on this story and don't let it fall off the radar. The Administration is hoping attention naturally drops and then the changes will be made. Great reporting on this issue - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep the pressure on. This is where good journalism starts and stops! Will these changes me made with or without support....unfortunately yes. But at least the internal and external communities will be aware of the bully tactics of President Auon and Provost Director. Good work Huntington News!
MSV
Mon Apr 13 2009 16:55
what a same this is not only to the student'sof the criminal justice students but also for the alumi,is very sad seems NUCJ,so much for being proud,its a slap in the face!
MS.V
Mon Apr 13 2009 16:52
TODDLES TO VICE PROVOST FOR ACADEMIC,I THINK YOU SAID IT ALL . SHAME ON YOU THE COMMITTEE IF WE NEW THIS BEFORE I'M SURE STUDENTS WOULD OF WENT TO OTHER UNIVERSITES WITH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE ,IF YOU THINK THE CLASS'S HAVE GONE DOWN I CAN SAW IT WILL GET EVEN LOWER WITH STUDENTS CHANGING SCHOOLS!
NU Realist
Mon Apr 13 2009 16:08
Personally I feel that CJ as a major should be downgraded as a major at Northeastern. I disagree with the point the NUCJ is somehow a cut above the rest of the students at Northeastern. When you look at elite colleges across the country, something that most of them do not have is a CJ program. As Northeastern advances and moves into this elite bracket of schools it makes sense for the CJ and Nursing majors to be scaled back as Northeastern takes on a higher caliber of students.
Vice Provost for Academic Affairs is a clown
Mon Apr 13 2009 14:02
What the administration and committee has done is complete BS. They have completely ignored and disregarded any student and alumni input. It is a mickey mouse committee and giant PR stunt. This process has been completely unfair and a load of crap. Vice Provost Loeffelholz should be immediately fired along w/ Director for their actions/lack of it. They might as well just cut the program and save all of us the time, allowing us to transfer elsewhere. All CJ students should take up arms to fight this. Aoun should be ashamed of himself, hypocritical jerk. This is all just further proof the administration has no regard for students. Every year the freshman CJ class includes 130 well rounded and service-oriented individuals. All of a sudden a drop to a 50student freshman class?? For the committee to tell us that is not a done deal is a blatant lie. Shame on Northeastern, wouldn't surprise me to see the CJ major cut in 4 years. Absolutely heartbreaking.
Proud NUCJ Alum
Mon Apr 13 2009 08:34
As an alum, I remember thinking that NUCJ was set apart (and above) from the rest (especially througout the application / decision process).... The fact that it was a "stand-alone" individual college was no doubt a factor in that thought process. I truly hope that the University decisoin makers rethink their stance.






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